Saturday, 21 February 2009

For Apostate

Post: Gender Stereotypes

Commenter: Daisy Deadhead

I do despise religious people.
Just for being religious, even though you have not met me? Despite
the content of my character, or whatever else I do or say?
Where I come from, we call that "prejudice" and it is a sign of
backward ignorance.

I am careful to avoid the blogs of people who believe in that sort
of nonsense.

Sounds like someone who is still quite influenced by fundamentalism,
and afraid to leave their comfort zone.

It beats me why you keep reading me if I offend you as much as I
obviously do.

Ain't skeered to read stuff. I enjoy reading, have read all the major
atheists, Jews, Muslims, you name it. I live damn dangerously!
Also, I believe that nothing "offends" me in the way you use the word
here. I am "offended" by cops beating up a man until he is blind (as
I wrote about yesterday). I am offended by persecution, violence,
bloodshed, troops deployed, billions of working-class retirement
dollars down the shitter.
Bloggers disagreeing? Not so much.

Nothing I have read by Barzun has been explicitly or even
implicitly Catholic.

Are you kidding? Wow. Obviously, this is because you are not
Catholic. He reeks with it. As Flannery O'Connor's stories reeked
with it, although (in her fiction, not essays) she never once said the
word. As James Joyce reeked with it, although constantly trashing
it. It is the moral framework they write in, the delineating of
cardinal virtues, etc.

A quickie 2-second Google search on "Jacques Barzun Catholic"--turns up this quote about San Antonio:

Interviewer: So as a historian, the mixed nature of San Antonio,
both Mexican and Anglo Texas, must fascinate you.
Barzun: I like the effect a strong Catholic community has on thought
and feeling, and public occasions.

And that is a good deal closer to my sensibility than to yours
or Barefoot Bum's, wouldn't you say?

As for drawing a parallel between me and my personal likes and
dislikes and what goes on in the fem blogosphere - it’s pretty lame.
Try again. Lame, my ass.
You did drive-by insults against an entire demographic group of
feminists you have not even met. An insult based on prejudice. And
then you have the temerity to criticize other feminists as
petty, self-righteous assholes. ((shakes head in abject amazement at
the lack of self-awareness))
Fine, be as hateful as you wanna be, but realize, you are part and
parcel of the phenomenon you complain about.

I am not starting huge arguments about how much religious people -
moderate and radical alike - suck.
But you tried to, didn't you? You left a whole paragraph of derailing
hate speech on that thread, and fortunately, folks had the good grace
to ignore your traumatized-ex-fundie spiel. Good for them.
But that last comment, about the assholes... too amazing to ignore,
and I just couldn't.

I refuse to take responsibility for my hatreds, in other words.

Yes, that is obvious. Well, don't expect MEN or anyone else, to take
responsibility for theirs, either, then. (Time to fold your feminist
tent and go home!)
Colloquially, that is known as "talking the talk, but not walking the
walk"--and garners mostly guffaws and disrespect from serious people
who have been activists as long as I have.
Grow the fuck up and TAKE responsibility, like you expect the guys to

And again, please stop reading if you are so offended, instead of
leaving snarky comments from time to time. Good christ, woman, you
MUST have better things to do!

Sorry, you need to hear it. You have the potential to be a serious
feminist activist, and I consider it my job to inform you of your lack
of insight, your hate speech and your continuous mistakes. Delete my
comments if they are too painful to deal with or read, as you
carefully protect your delicate eyes from blogs that might give you
the vapors.

But please, do not ask of other humans (men) what you admit is too
difficult for yourself. That is called hypocrisy.

(Comment copied, in case I need it for Lina’s blog, IN THE MODERATION


SECOND COMMENT, after banning:

An ATHEIST who resorts to censorship? Say it isn't so.
For the record, you cannot say you are a feminist, while also bragging
you hate most of the women in the world. You GET that much,
right? As Trotsky (real communist, not a fake one, like you) would
have said, that is an intrinsic contradiction.

The rest of the feminist blogosphere gave up on me a long time
Yes, and I finally get it now--it's because you aren't really a
feminist. In fact, you are proud of HATING feminists who are
religious and censoring feminists who disagree with you. And then you
self-righteously whine that feminists are petty assholes! You are a
fucking RIOT--you really should take this act on the road.
This is the first atheist blog that has ever censored me... I think it
is telling that you are an ex-fundie. Old habits die hard, yes?
Scratch the "atheist" and we see a cowardly fundamentalist underneath,
unable to debate, and afraid to read something that might scare her.
(But hey, ain't she a bwave, naughty wittle girl over on Professor

Daisy, take it elsewhere
If you insist.

Thursday, 15 January 2009

For Laurelin in the Rain

Post: Moral Outrage

Commenter: SnowdropExplodes
Even though you've promised not to post any more comments from me, I will respond to a few of the claims made about me - whether you see this as fair response (and therefore worthy of being seen by others), or you see it as belligerence (and therefore not), I will leave to you.

1/. "...if you are called misogynistic (so far not by me as I do not know you) by feminists I’d advise you to reconsider your attitudes and behaviours towards women."

To date only people who don't know me have called me a misogynist. I am constantly reassessing my behaviour and attitudes towards women, and "examining". My understanding of the definition of misogyny from reading and listening to women makes me feel confident in my statement.

2/. "Funny how Snowdrop takes a post about moral outrages against women and our justifiable anger about them and manages to make it ALL ABOUT HIM because obviously he is the most interesting subject here bar none."

Well, maybe it wasn't about me, but there's some discussion elsewhere about the possibility that it was about me and others like me - some people are cynical about statements like "the misogyny of men who claim they are ’sex positive’." on radical feminist blogs, and (perhaps incorrectly) reach a conclusion that the writer meant ALL men who identify as sex-positive.

3/. "Snowdrop is the chap who reckons he’d rather be a prostitute than a cleaner, thus it’s OK for women to be prostituted for men’s use."

This is a distortion of my statement at The F-Word, and you know what, it would be nice if there were a link to my original post on my blog - where you'd find the sentiments "no-one beat me, nor violated the very boundaries of my body, nor did they call me names, nor did I have to pretend I enjoyed the cleaning, nor did I run the risk of being arrested should someone find me in my pinny." echoed pretty closely. As I said, I'm a sex-positive feminist. That means I think that sex workers should be able to do their work without fear of those things happening, too.

Monday, 5 January 2009

For Maggie Hays - Feminist Against Pornography

Post: Rape Increase in a Rape Culture

Commenter: Caroline
And this rape culture will get a hell of a lot worse with the anti-prostitution laws you support. Rape and assaults have DOUBLED this year following the changes in law in Scotland and it's set to happen in England and Wales. Maybe start reading these "pro-porn" blogs you dismiss so ignorantly and see how you can actually help.