tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83113149230135264542024-02-21T01:13:35.932+00:00in the moderation queueNataliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01995697364352031578noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-47354672204064035482009-02-21T16:47:00.003+00:002009-02-21T17:04:04.762+00:00For Apostate<span style="font-weight: bold;">Post: </span><a href="http://apostate.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/gender-stereotypes/"><span>Gender Stereotypes</span></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter: </span><a href="http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/">Daisy Deadhead</a><br /><br /><i style="font-weight: bold;">I do despise religious people.</i><br />Just for being religious, even though you have not met me? Despite<br />the content of my character, or whatever else I do or say?<br />Where I come from, we call that "prejudice" and it is a sign of<br />backward ignorance.<br /><i><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">I am careful to avoid the blogs of people who believe in that sort</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">of nonsense. </span></i><br />Sounds like someone who is still quite influenced by fundamentalism,<br />and afraid to leave their comfort zone.<br /><i><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">It beats me why you keep reading me if I offend you as much as I</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">obviously do.</span></i><br />Ain't skeered to read stuff. I enjoy reading, have read all the major<br />atheists, Jews, Muslims, you name it. I live damn dangerously!<br />Also, I believe that nothing "offends" me in the way you use the word<br />here. I am "offended" by cops beating up a man until he is blind (as<br />I wrote about yesterday). I am offended by persecution, violence,<br />bloodshed, troops deployed, billions of working-class retirement<br />dollars down the shitter.<br />Bloggers disagreeing? Not so much.<br /><i><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Nothing I have read by Barzun has been explicitly or even</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">implicitly Catholic.</span></i><br />Are you kidding? Wow. Obviously, this is because you are not<br />Catholic. He reeks with it. As Flannery O'Connor's stories reeked<br />with it, although (in her fiction, not essays) she never once said the<br />word. As James Joyce reeked with it, although constantly trashing<br />it. It is the moral framework they write in, the delineating of<br />cardinal virtues, etc.<br /><br />A quickie 2-second Google search on "Jacques Barzun Catholic"--<a href="http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%20%20%3A78886">turns up this quote about San Antonio:</a><br /><b><br /></b><span style="font-style: italic;">Interviewer: So as a historian, the mixed nature of San Antonio,</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">both Mexican and Anglo Texas, must fascinate you.</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Barzun: I like the effect a strong Catholic community has on thought</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">and feeling, and public occasions. </span><br /><br />And that is a good deal closer to <i>my</i> sensibility than to yours<br />or Barefoot Bum's, wouldn't you say?<br /><i><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">As for drawing a parallel between me and my personal likes and</span><br /><!-- i--><span style="font-weight: bold;">dislikes and what goes on in the fem blogosphere - it’s pretty lame.</span><br /></i>Try again. Lame, my ass.<br />You did drive-by insults against an entire demographic group of<br />feminists you have not even met. An insult based on prejudice. And<br />then you have the temerity to criticize other feminists as<br />petty, self-righteous assholes. ((shakes head in abject amazement at<br />the lack of self-awareness))<br />Fine, be as hateful as you wanna be, but realize, you are part and<br />parcel of the phenomenon you complain about. <i><br /><i><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">I am not starting huge arguments about how much religious people -</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">moderate and radical alike - suck.</span><br /></i></i>But you tried to, didn't you? You left a whole paragraph of derailing<br />hate speech on that thread, and fortunately, folks had the good grace<br />to ignore your traumatized-ex-fundie spiel. Good for them.<br />But that last comment, about the assholes... too amazing to ignore,<br />and I just couldn't. <i><br /><i><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">I refuse to take responsibility for my hatreds, in other words.</span></i><br /></i>Yes, that is obvious. Well, don't expect MEN or anyone else, to take<br />responsibility for theirs, either, then. (Time to fold your feminist<br />tent and go home!)<br />Colloquially, that is known as "talking the talk, but not walking the<br />walk"--and garners mostly guffaws and disrespect from serious people<br />who have been activists as long as I have.<br />Grow the fuck up and TAKE responsibility, like you expect the guys to<br />do. <i><br /><i><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">And again, please stop reading if you are so offended, instead of</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">leaving snarky comments from time to time. Good christ, woman, you</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">MUST have better things to do!</span></i><br /></i>Sorry, you need to hear it. You have the potential to be a serious<br />feminist activist, and I consider it my job to inform you of your lack<br />of insight, your hate speech and your continuous mistakes. Delete my<br />comments if they are too painful to deal with or read, as you<br />carefully protect your delicate eyes from blogs that might give you<br />the vapors.<br /><br />But please, do not ask of other humans (men) what you admit is too<br />difficult for yourself. That is called hypocrisy.<br /><br /><br />(Comment copied, in case I need it for Lina’s blog, IN THE MODERATION<br />QUEUE.)<br /><i><br /><br />~*~<br /><br /><br />SECOND COMMENT, after banning:<br /><br /></i>An ATHEIST who resorts to censorship? Say it isn't so.<br />For the record, you cannot say you are a feminist, while also bragging<br />you hate most of the women in the world. You GET that much,<br />right? As Trotsky (real communist, not a fake one, like you) would<br />have said, that is an intrinsic contradiction.<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">The rest of the feminist blogosphere gave up on me a long time </span><br /><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">ago. </span><br />Yes, and I finally get it now--it's because you aren't really a<br />feminist. In fact, you are proud of HATING feminists who are<br />religious and censoring feminists who disagree with you. And then you<br />self-righteously whine that feminists are petty assholes! You are a<br />fucking RIOT--you really should take this act on the road.<br />This is the first atheist blog that has ever censored me... I think it<br />is telling that you are an ex-fundie. Old habits die hard, yes?<br />Scratch the "atheist" and we see a cowardly fundamentalist underneath,<br />unable to debate, and afraid to read something that might scare her.<br />(But hey, ain't she a bwave, naughty wittle girl over on Professor<br />Whatif's!?!)<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Daisy, take it elsewhere </span><br />If you insist. <i><br /></i>Nataliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01995697364352031578noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-56072803758458439862009-01-15T16:24:00.001+00:002009-01-15T16:26:03.029+00:00For Laurelin in the Rain<span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://laurelin.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/moral-outrage/">Moral Outrage</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://afemanistview.blogspot.com/">SnowdropExplodes</a><br /><blockquote>Even though you've promised not to post any more comments from me, I will respond to a few of the claims made about me - whether you see this as fair response (and therefore worthy of being seen by others), or you see it as belligerence (and therefore not), I will leave to you.<br /><br />1/. "...if you are called misogynistic (so far not by me as I do not know you) by feminists I’d advise you to reconsider your attitudes and behaviours towards women."<br /><br />To date only people who don't know me have called me a misogynist. I am constantly reassessing my behaviour and attitudes towards women, and "examining". My understanding of the definition of misogyny from reading and listening to women makes me feel confident in my statement.<br /><br />2/. "Funny how Snowdrop takes a post about moral outrages against women and our justifiable anger about them and manages to make it ALL ABOUT HIM because obviously he is the most interesting subject here bar none."<br /><br />Well, maybe it wasn't about me, but there's some discussion elsewhere about the possibility that it was about me and others like me - some people are cynical about statements like "the misogyny of men who claim they are ’sex positive’." on radical feminist blogs, and (perhaps incorrectly) reach a conclusion that the writer meant ALL men who identify as sex-positive.<br /><br />3/. "Snowdrop is the chap who reckons he’d rather be a prostitute than a cleaner, thus it’s OK for women to be prostituted for men’s use."<br /><br />This is a distortion of my statement at The F-Word, and you know what, it would be nice if there were a link to my original post on my blog - where you'd find the sentiments "no-one beat me, nor violated the very boundaries of my body, nor did they call me names, nor did I have to pretend I enjoyed the cleaning, nor did I run the risk of being arrested should someone find me in my pinny." echoed pretty closely. As I said, I'm a sex-positive feminist. That means I think that sex workers should be able to do their work without fear of those things happening, too.</blockquote>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-66141649924807047432009-01-05T16:29:00.002+00:002009-01-05T16:32:11.971+00:00For Maggie Hays - Feminist Against Pornography<span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://maggiehaysagainstporn.blogspot.com/2009/01/rape-increase-in-rape-culture.html">Rape Increase in a Rape Culture</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://ohbastard.wordpress.com/">Caroline</a><br /><blockquote>And this rape culture will get a hell of a lot worse with the anti-prostitution laws you support. <a href="http://%20edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Attacks-on-Capital39s-vulnerable-%20vice.4799834.jp">Rape and assaults have DOUBLED this year following the changes in law in Scotland</a> and it's set to happen in England and Wales. Maybe start reading these "pro-porn" blogs you dismiss so ignorantly and see how you can actually help.</blockquote>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-56290062534353197302008-11-30T19:37:00.001+00:002008-11-30T19:37:54.612+00:00For Rage Against The Man-chine<span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/11/29/bdsm-the-sexual-equivalent-of-being-into-renaissance-faires-part-2-the-problem-with-kink/">BDSM (the sexual equivalent of being into Renaissance faires) Part 2: The Problem with Kink</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://afemanistview.blogspot.com/">Snowdrop Explodes</a><br /><blockquote>The question that springs to my mind is, "what did these adverts say?" (that's both the male submissive and the female submissive ones that you mentioned).<br /><br /> Secondly, why did you not explore the responses to an advert as a female dominant?<br /><br /> Thirdly, as someone who would presumably fall into category 1 above, I must tell you that I do not in any way shape or form suggest that it is a "natural feminine desire", and to be honest, I've seen quite a few male dominants who take great exception to being tarred with that brush. I do admit that there are some who definitely do go down that route, but kindly afford them a separate category.<br /><br /> The other thing that seems quite rare is to describe sexual fantasies in a first contact message.<br /><br /> Furthermore, you appear to be unaware that these different types of responses are frequently discussed on BDSM community websites such as <a href="http://bondage.com/" target="_blank">bondage.com</a> and <a href="http://informedconsent.co.uk/" target="_blank">informedconsent.co.uk</a> so you've not really "discovered" anything we didn't already know. The proportion of tosspots responding to BDSM personal ads is likely to be similar to the proportion of tosspots who respond to vanilla personal ads, so again, you've proved nothing. Except, of course, in the BDSM community there tends to be more vociferous condemnation by *all* genders of the tosspots, than in vanilla life.<br /><br /> Your analysis is meaningless without knowing what your advert said, and being able to know what exactly you invited by it.</blockquote>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-63765575645010139722008-11-30T19:29:00.001+00:002008-11-30T19:37:02.914+00:00For Rage Against the Man-chine<span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/11/29/bdsm-the-sexual-equivalent-of-being-into-renaissance-faires-part-2-the-problem-with-kink/">BDSM (the sexual equivalent of being into Renaissance faires) Part 2: The Problem with Kink</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://afemanistview.blogspot.com/">Snowdrop Explodes</a><br /><blockquote> In your last post, you write "I’ll ask that you keep in mind the fact that you can’t refute an argument that is true in most cases with a single counterexample, even if it is your own personal experience."<br /><br /> However, here you appear to be taking your own personal experience and treating it as universal.<br /><br /> You write, "It might be a result of my being unlikely to respond positively to orders, but I really can’t imagine doing aught but snickering at someone handing out orders to me with the expectation that I’d get all excited by it. I realize that role-playing gets some people all hot and bothered, but that shit is lost on me."<br /><br /> But the expectation comes from the fact that prior to giving the orders, the person receiving the orders has communicated clearly that zie responds in that way. This is why I have heard so many stories of sexually submissive women "corrupting the vanillas" as their first BDSM experiences - that is, asking (nay, demanding!) that their vanilla boyfriend should take on a BDSM dominant role.<br /><br /> You have yourself done precisely what you were warning others against doing.</blockquote>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-5267452364290803422008-11-25T23:42:00.000+00:002008-11-25T23:44:18.553+00:00For Women's Space<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/11/24/mens-rights-myth-there-are-as-many-abusive-women-as-abusive-men-abused-men-are-invisible-because-they-are-ashamed-to-tell/">Misogynist Myth for Today: “There are as many abusive women as abusive men. Abused men are invisible because they are ashamed to tell.”</a><br /></div><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://rachelsetzer.com/blog.html">Rachel Setzer</a><br /><blockquote>Just because it's more rare for men to be abused by women doesn't mean that it's okay to marginalize those men who are abused by women. It DOES happen and is JUST AS wrong (not more wrong, not less wrong, JUST AS wrong) when a woman abuses her male intimate partner. Nevermind that all of this debate about whose more abused men by women or women by men completely ignores those people who are gay and abused by their intimate partners.<br /><br />In my opinion, intimate partner abuse and violence needs to be addressed as a whole, focusing on heterosexual as well as homosexual men and women. It may be that most survivors of domestic abuse are heterosexual women, but that doesn't mean that the heterosexual men and homosexual men and women should be ignored while we deal with the so-called "real problem". Perhaps we should focus more on preventing abuse and violence on the end of the abuser rather than who gets shamed by whom on the victim end of things.</blockquote>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-73288674904160553072008-11-18T18:44:00.002+00:002008-11-18T18:47:47.122+00:00For Women's Space<span style="font-weight: bold;">Post:</span> <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/11/17/an-open-letter-from-me-cheryl-lindsey-seelhoff-to-pro-porn-pro-prostitution-misogynist-male-centered-anti-feminist-bloggers/">An Open Letter from Me, Cheryl Lindsey Seelhoff, to Pro-Porn, Pro-Prostitution, Misogynist, Male-Centered, Anti-Feminist Persons</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://dontstray.wordpress.com/">Debi</a><br /><blockquote>Heart, I really don't think anybody is trying to silence you. And I don't think anyone honestly expects that you will stop "vocally and outspokenly oppose pornography, prostitution, sex trafficking, the enslavement of women, male dominance, white male heterosupremacy, and all brutality towards women throughout the world." I for one wouldn't want you to stop doing that.<br /><br />But the problem arises when, for example, you speak about another blogger, or cite something they have said, without giving the context by way of a link, or just an explanation of where the person is coming from (or even who the person is). This misrepresents people, and naturally, gets their backs up. If you want to call out Renegade Evolution, to take your latest example, then you are free to do so, but in the interests of transparency and honesty, it would be best to link to what she said specifically that you are calling her out on, so that people can go there and read it, and form their own opinions.<br /><br />Of course, it's your blog and you can do what you like with it, but I'm just saying that it seems to me whenever a thread here becomes a "trainwreck" it is not because of "trolls" coming along and attempting to derail it or whatever, but because of your disrespect to (certain) other women in the first place. Coming from a feminist, the dimissal of any woman's voice, or lived reality, is very hard to take. You consistently allow comments from Satsuma, for example, who will not listen to other women, but insists that they have been raped when they say they have not, or that they were abused as children when they say they were not. Satsuma doing that is dismissing completely other women's voices - yet she is allowed to do that in this "Women's Space". However, if one of those women Satsuma says has been raped comes here to say that she is wrong, she is not allowed to do so.<br /><br />As I said, it's your blog and your choice, but the problem arises from this "Women's Space" listening avidly to some women, whilst others are silenced. And, of course they can go back to their own blog and say what they have to say there, but I think many would much prefer and open discussion at the site of the original "calling out", as that is surely the best way to have a discussion.</blockquote>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-38459713907804590402008-11-18T01:14:00.001+00:002008-11-18T01:16:19.268+00:00For Women's Space<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/11/17/an-open-letter-from-me-cheryl-lindsey-seelhoff-to-pro-porn-pro-prostitution-misogynist-male-centered-anti-feminist-bloggers/">An Open Letter from Me, Cheryl Lindsey Seelhoff, to Pro-Porn, Pro-Prostitution, Misogynist, Male-Centered, Anti-Feminist Persons.</a><br /></div><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: Caroline<br /><div style="text-align: justify;"><blockquote>Good Lord no, you mustn't be silenced God forbid anyone else gets a word in edgeways, huh? Better for them to shut up so we can hear you in all your glory.<br /><br />Christ woman, your lack of self-awareness is absolutely bizarre, never seen the like in a grown woman.</blockquote></div>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-41998761739795896712008-11-17T12:54:00.004+00:002008-11-17T13:09:49.197+00:00For Women's SpacePost: <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/">Julie Bindel on Sheila Jeffreys’ New Book on the Sex Trade, “The Industrial Vagina”</a><br /><br />Commenter: <a href="http://renegadeevolution.blogspot.com/">Renegade Evolution</a><br /><blockquote>Not that it will matter, but hey, I am that bored/amused/having nothing better to do at the moment.<br /><br />First, ah, the time honored favorite of “you must be a man!” from <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/11/12/julie-bindel-on-sheila-jeffreys-new-book-on-the-sex-trade-the-industrial-vagina/#comment-20605">Sis</a>. That one never seems to get old! Also, I do believe Hexy answered you regarding money, but oddly enough, her comment never made it through moderation…it happens frequently round these parts. For the record, we are both women, btw.<br /><br />And then, why yes, <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/11/12/julie-bindel-on-sheila-jeffreys-new-book-on-the-sex-trade-the-industrial-vagina/#comment-20617">Sam</a>! I do not own nor film the scenes on “WhoreAbuse” (no new content for said site has been shot in years, and none of it was ever shot by me). I’ve never actually filmed another woman in any pornography that I, personally, have made, and in anything I’ve ever done, there is no question that it is made willingly and there is nothing “rape like” about it. Rough and rape are not synonymous. Have I listed the names of sites I’ve been on or things I’ve made? No. Why, well, as Sis has contended in the past, I wouldn’t want anyone thinking I was a marketing front or only blogging so people would buy my pornographic products, and further more, it’s not necessary.<br /><br />And lastly, <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/11/12/julie-bindel-on-sheila-jeffreys-new-book-on-the-sex-trade-the-industrial-vagina/#comment-20619">Satsuma</a>:<br /><br />A woman has a right to define and name her own experiences for herself. You seem to think you have a right to do it for everyone. Now, unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the women you are discussing (be they sex workers or merely women who watch porn) have been raped, sexually abused, or molested, you really should stop making such accusations towards her, for her, and over her. Further more, you should stop assuming that even if such things have happened, it renders her incapable of making decisions for herself. After all, I would be willing to be a lot of women who are not privilged lesbians, as you say, like you, every day women to oh, a great many radical feminists, have been raped, sexually abused, or molested…and if you are going to go on about how such things eliminate agency…well then, we’re looking at possibly ¼ of the women on the face of the earth who don’t have any. You really want to go there?</blockquote>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-6687031918764293572008-11-16T18:26:00.002+00:002008-11-16T19:02:41.275+00:00For Women's Space<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/11/12/julie-bindel-on-sheila-jeffreys-new-book-on-the-sex-trade-the-industrial-vagina/">Julie Bindel on Sheila Jeffreys’ New Book on the Sex Trade, “The Industrial Vagina”</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://renegadeevolution.blogspot.com/">Renegade Evolution</a><br /><blockquote>Well, Cheryl, call me a stickler for details. When I quote someone or allude to what they’ve said, I consider it good form and ethical to link to their own words, so people can actually see what’s really there, and not someone else’s take on it. It is, in countless ways, considered proper procedure and form.<br /><br />And since we’re playing this game, let me lay this out real simple for you: Yeah, I have degrees- that being in the sex industry paid for. Do I have some privileges? Absolutely. Do I lack others? Absolutely. Am I middle class? Now, yeah, barely…like a whole hell of a lot of other people out there, yourself included. But I can assure you, I came from far less than middle class- far less- and yeah, you can bet money I am not going back if there is anything I can do about it. And I can, so I do. What has me where I am now? Sex work.<br /><br />And for a moment, think about this take on it: logically- in any capitalist industry, those who do the employing are far more likely to employ those who will work for free than those who want any sort of payment at all. It’s simply a logical business theory, and porn is a business. So if I do gonzo or whatever else for free or for less, well, I am doing it and perhaps one less woman who doesn’t want to is.<br /><br />As for the internet, well, I have just as much right to be here talking about what I think as you do, and why yes, I know you are not saying I don’t, but if you think I’m the only person out there who is into “sexual brutality”, even the only female one…well, hate to disappoint, but there are a whole lot of us out here. And in a world where any sort of “sexual deviancy” from homosexuality to BDSM can be written off by many as a mental illness or countless other things, sure enough, I am all for talking about it and seeing non-criminal and consenting acts of such thing normalized.<br /><br />Millions of humans suffer so we can drive cars, use computers, wear clothes, eat food, and have countless other things. It sucks, and it’s harsh, but it’s true. I think you also know, agree with my methods or not, I do what I can to help people in the sex industry who do not want to be there. And frankly, if you think I am some cold-blooded sellout, well, I don’t care. Everyone needs their demons, right? Hell, I even respect some of the work you do, I’ve said before and I’m sure I’ll say again your site is an excellent source of information on world news regarding women, but I think you have a very one sided and ill-informed view of the whole of the sex industry, the people in it, and what needs to be done. I also know from interacting with you that you do not care to hear from people, even victims, who do not share your view. You’ve made that plainly evident. And yeah, you can quote me on that too.</blockquote><br /></div>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-40487870493061880372008-10-23T22:26:00.003+01:002008-10-23T22:30:06.613+01:00For Women's Space<span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/10/22/clinton-palin-and-obama-mccain/">Clinton-Palin and Obama-McCain</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/">Daisy</a><br /><blockquote>Why would a rabid anti-abortionist consent to be on the ticket with a dedicated abortion rights advocate? You would WANT this?<br /><br />How is that a feminist view? </blockquote>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com7tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311314923013526454.post-29859099241748770192008-10-23T22:18:00.006+01:002008-10-23T22:31:00.368+01:00For Women's Space<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Post</span>: <a href="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/10/22/women-will-pay-for-an-obama-presidency-obamas-woman-staff-members-paid-17-percent-less-mccains-paid-more-than-men-mccain-hires-more-women-than-obama-does/">Women Will Pay for an Obama Presidency: Obama’s Woman Staff Members Paid 17 Percent Less Than Men, McCain’s Paid More Than Men, McCain Hires More Women Than Obama Does</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commenter</span>: <a href="http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/">Daisy</a><br /><blockquote>Heart, do I understand this to be a pro-McCain post? You’ve written several of these anti-Obama posts now. What’s up? Why are you joining the right-wing, fundamentalist pile-on?<br /><br />Are you actually backing an anti-abortion, anti-gay candidate?<br /><br />If so, how are these views feminist?<br /><br />IF not, do you think still another post praising Palin is wise, this close to the election?</blockquote><br /></div>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com3